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Cignoro hrobosa

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 4:38 am
by Kwisatz
I found something today.

There is a text in Chakobsa:

"Cignoro hrobosa sukares hin mange la pchagavas doi me kamavas na beslas lele pal hrobas!"

and the explanation was:

"It was Chakobsa, one of the ancient hunting languages, and the man above them was saying that perhaps these were the strangers they sought."

but in fact real meaning was different.

Compare with this text:

"Cignoro hrobosa
Hin sukares rosa
Mange la pchagavas,
Doi me na kâmavas.

Beš'las piranake,
Hrobas hin joy mange,
Pchgavas, choč žanav
Pal lele avava
Te me ne brinzinav.
The me počivinav."

"On her little tomb there grows
By itself a lovely rose,
All alone the rose I break,
And I do it for her sake.

I sat by her I held so dear,
Now her grave and mine are near,
I break the rose because I know
That to her I soon must go,
Grief cannot my spirit stir,
Since I know I go to her!"

There is a belief allied to this of the power of the dead in graves to work wonders, to the effect that if any one plucks a rose from a grave, he or she will soon die. In this song a gypsy picks a rose from the grave of the one be loved, hoping that it will cause his death.

Sources:
Gypsy Sorcery and Fortune Telling, by Charles Godfrey Leland, [1891]
http://www.sacred-texts.com/pag/gsft/gsft08.htm
Gypsy Witchcraft by Charles Godfrey Leland [2015]
https://books.google.pl/books?id=guy1Bg ... sa&f=false

Re: Cignoro hrobosa

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 3:34 am
by lotek
Nice find man, nice find!