Law and SF

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Law and SF

Postby Omphalos » Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:32 pm

I've started another blog, and this time I think that it has some directions. Omphalos' Blow Hole Noises was fun while it lasted (kind of), but with the new one I think I've hit upon something fresh and new out there. Take a look, and feel free to leave comments.

I will often post on the new blog and on the book review site about the same book, but they will never be the same posts.
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Postby inhuien » Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:52 am

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Postby GamePlayer » Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:38 am

Any chance you'll examine the horrible legal mess that is the Macross franchise? Hell, you could write a book and make a career on that one :)
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Postby SandChigger » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:49 am

It's cool when you can combine what you do with something you love.

I really should do more with scifi & linguistics. :(


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Postby Omphalos » Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:49 pm

GamePlayer wrote:Any chance you'll examine the horrible legal mess that is the Macross franchise? Hell, you could write a book and make a career on that one :)


If I knew aobut it, Im sure I would. That is an android/robot show, right? never seen it.
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Postby Omphalos » Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:50 pm

SandChigger wrote:It's cool when you can combine what you do with something you love.

I really should do more with scifi & linguistics. :(


Exactly!!!! Im even going to slow off on book reviews while I do this. Its more fun for me, and its something nobody else is doing.
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Postby A Thing of Eternity » Fri Jan 30, 2009 2:08 pm

I look forward to reading this, thanks Omph.
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Postby Liege-Killer » Sat Jan 31, 2009 6:33 pm

Great idea for a blog!

I'll be sure to send my Sci-Fi Standpoint readers your way.
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Postby Omphalos » Sun Feb 01, 2009 1:17 am

Thanks guys! Working on article 2 right now. Should be done in a week or two. Its on copyright.
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Postby chanilover » Sun Feb 01, 2009 10:58 am

Cool idea for a site. I'll have a read through that and chuck in my two pence worth.

I did US Law & Politics as part of my undergraduate pains, and it's always interesting for me to see how Americans approach legal issues, compared to the approach in English law. It's like being in a familiar room but someone has rearranged the furniture.
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Postby Omphalos » Sun Feb 01, 2009 11:07 am

chanilover wrote:Cool idea for a site. I'll have a read through that and chuck in my two pence worth.

I did US Law & Politics as part of my undergraduate pains, and it's always interesting for me to see how Americans approach legal issues, compared to the approach in English law. It's like being in a familiar room but someone has rearranged the furniture.


Exactly. You are a contract attorney, right CL?
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Postby chanilover » Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:57 am

I'm in corporate practice, yeah. I still have just under two years before I can be let loose on my own! :lol:
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Postby GamePlayer » Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:31 am

Omphalos wrote:
GamePlayer wrote:Any chance you'll examine the horrible legal mess that is the Macross franchise? Hell, you could write a book and make a career on that one :)


If I knew aobut it, Im sure I would. That is an android/robot show, right? never seen it.


You're probably better off not going through the legal mess. It's a disaster. But it would make for an interesting case that matches the blog. How about the Blade Runner fiasco?
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Postby A Thing of Eternity » Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:25 am

Finally got a chance to sit down and read everything, looks really good Omph.
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Postby chanilover » Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:37 pm

Are you planning on doing anything Dune-related on this blog?
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Postby Omphalos » Mon Feb 16, 2009 5:03 pm

I think so, but I have to go back and read first. Maybe on the institutionalization of social schemes over time by government, like with Faufreleches. Maybe with the War of Assassins, though I don't know if there is enough there to really make a single post with the Dune books. There are a lot of other things I will be getting to first.

Herbert has some better legal related ideas in The Dosadi Experiment. McKie is the only human who is admitted to practice law before the alien Gowachin bar. He litigates the fate of a planet called Dosadi before a court in that system. It will be very dangerous if those on Dosadi are freed, but McKie argues anyway.

Whipping Star has some restrictive laws in it too, but they bind McKie from doing his job and really are not analyzed too deeply. That is one wierd book.

I just started a book called "Circuit" about a joint US/Soviet program to put a US-style district court on the moon, because mining "towns" have essentialy become the wild-west in space.
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Postby SandChigger » Mon Feb 16, 2009 5:22 pm

Who's that by? Doesn't sound like something I'll be rushing out to buy, but a bite more info, Good Sir Omphy! :)

(Is it an older book? Your use of "Soviet" makes me think maybe... ;) )
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Postby Omphalos » Mon Feb 16, 2009 5:31 pm

SandChigger wrote:Who's that by? Doesn't sound like something I'll be rushing out to buy, but a bite more info, Good Sir Omphy! :)

(Is it an older book? Your use of "Soviet" makes me think maybe... ;) )


Its the first book in a trilogy from the 80's by a Con Law professor named Melinda Snodgrass. Not one of the giants, but as she is a lawyer herself and obviously has an understanding the theory of laws, it should be interesting. It's probably full of hornbook law with minimal analysis, but Ill give it a full chance. I have read the first several pages, and so far it does not suck. Even if it does, it can still be a winner because general literary quality is not what Im most concerend with on that blog.
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Re: Law and SF

Postby Omphalos » Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:42 pm

Was wondering if anyone out there has read any SF books that deal with legal issues or are courtroom dramas? I'v got a long list of stuff to review on this blog, but this is a topic that nobody has ever done any work in before, so Im kind of starting from scratch. Any help would be very much appreciated. Even if the legal connection is tenuous at best, Id like to hear about it.
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Re: Law and SF

Postby Liege-Killer » Sat May 02, 2009 8:33 am

I just read a short story by Asimov called "Galley Slave" that is both a robot story and a courtroom drama. Wasn't bad.
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Re: Law and SF

Postby Omphalos » Sat May 02, 2009 11:30 am

Liege-Killer wrote:I just read a short story by Asimov called "Galley Slave" that is both a robot story and a courtroom drama. Wasn't bad.


Is that one in I, Robot? Or was it in The Rest of the Robots? I have those books sitting in the pile.
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Re: Law and SF

Postby The Phantom » Sat May 02, 2009 10:54 pm

Omphalos wrote:
Liege-Killer wrote:I just read a short story by Asimov called "Galley Slave" that is both a robot story and a courtroom drama. Wasn't bad.


Is that one in I, Robot? Or was it in The Rest of the Robots? I have those books sitting in the pile.

i think it must be in "the rest" because I haven't read it.. just bought that anthology though :)
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Re: Law and SF

Postby Liege-Killer » Sun May 03, 2009 8:01 am

Omphalos wrote:
Liege-Killer wrote:I just read a short story by Asimov called "Galley Slave" that is both a robot story and a courtroom drama. Wasn't bad.


Is that one in I, Robot? Or was it in The Rest of the Robots? I have those books sitting in the pile.


I read it in an anthology called The Seven Deadly Sins of Science Fiction. It's set at the time when robots are first being produced, and the company that makes them is trying to gain public acceptance for them, so they lease one to a university so it can show off what it can do. But one professor tries to use the robot for his own purposes by manipulating the Three Laws, and the whole story is a courtroom drama exploring these events.
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