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Postby Nekhrun » Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:29 am

I never paid any attention to facebook before, but I went over there out of curiosity and see that there are a number of Dune groups. I've made a couple of posts, but as time permits, I'm hoping that a few of those posters come over here. There is no love for KJA on many of those threads.

Do any of you have facebook accounts?
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Postby GamePlayer » Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:41 am

My friends have been trying to convince me I should register for almost a year now and I've resisted. I realize that it's a good way to remain in touch, especially since some of my friends seem to be electronically challenged (try replying to an e-mail!). But frankly, theres a lot of people I don't want to remain in touch with.

I've never really been a "social butterfly" kind of person and I've never had that ridiculous "friend catalogue" that some people keep in their black books, cell phones or crackberries so they can ring up a "friend" (and I use the word loosely) to fit every mood. I take my friends very seriously and I have a small but important circle of roughly a dozen family and friends. More importantly, I don't want to run into any of my ex-girlfriends, many of whom are social networking junkies. I can almost GUARANTEE that several of my ex-girlfriends are on Facebook and they are the kind of girls that would just love to say hello. No thanks. I'm not interested in keeping these braindead relationships on Facebook life support.

Having said all that, my friends have tried to persuade me that Facebook can be customized for privacy and I can limit my personal details. I trust my firends, but I'm also warry of their motive to get me on this latest internet craze. Perhaps you could fill in a few details from a neutral point of view?
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Postby Nekhrun » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:04 am

Well, you certainly wouldn't be able to find out much about me from looking at the profile I just created. Especially since the email account I use for that kind of stuff isn't one I particulary care about (no offense to those of you who have used that one :wink: ).

I used the name Nekhrun and only really plan to use the account for Dune related items. So far, it seems a little cleaner than myspace. I doubt that anyone who who knows me would be able to find me as my Dune obsession remains an internet aspect.

I dropped the Undeleted address on a couple Dune groups for anyone who might want to come see what all the fun is about. On others I just mentioned my opinion of the new books. :evil:
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Postby Omphalos » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:06 am

I have a my space account that I dont use too much. There are some Dune groups there, but only one that I have found that has any regular posters. I have never tried Facebook. Are the Dune groups hopping?

BTW, if you want to invite someone here, thats cool with me. You may want to PM me, because I have a very sensitive spam detector that may result in a few false-positive rejections.
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Postby GamePlayer » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:22 am

Well, I was basically looking for confirmation of the system for personal security. My friends tell me that if I join Facebook, I can basically create a profile that limits what can be seen by just anyone versus the profile information that MY Facebook friends can see. Is that so?
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Postby Omphalos » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:35 am

GamePlayer wrote:Well, I was basically looking for confirmation of the system for personal security. My friends tell me that if I join Facebook, I can basically create a profile that limits what can be seen by just anyone versus the profile information that MY Facebook friends can see. Is that so?


Im sure it is. They usually put in at least that much so that parents can protect their children who flock to sites like that. My Space has all kinds of minimum protections like that. The way it works there is that eveyone can see that you have a profile, and your main picture, age, city, etc (though you can block that stuff too), but can only see the main page with all the links and info if you approve them in your friend list. Then you can boot people as you see fit. which reminds me I still gotta go nuke Hyppo from my My Space list, if she has not beaten me to it yet, that is!
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Postby GamePlayer » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:46 am

Yeah, see that's just what I'd feared. I don't want just anyone to see my picture or know who I am. And I also don't want it so that if I do authorize people to see my profile, they haven't a clue who I am.

If I could use a screen name and avatar for the public face on Facebook (like here at the AU) and then have my real name and picture just for friends that I personally authorize, that would good. Otherwise, no way.
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Postby Phaedrus » Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:16 pm

Facebook can absolutely be customized in that way.

In fact, if you want, you can put your real name and all your real information on your facebook account, but make it absolutely impossible for you to be found. There's an option that makes it so that only your approved friends can even know your account exists. If you searched "John Doe" for someone with that name, your account would not come up in the search results.

I had that for a while, but changed my account so that I can be found, but my picture isn't shown, and my page can't be accessed unless I approve the person who "friends" me.

And yes, you can make it so that other people can only see a "limited" profile, so that your friends can see everything, but other people(that you approve) can only see what you want them to see. It's very nicely customizable for privacy.

Oh, and facebook used to be really awesome, until they made it so third-party individuals and groups can add "applications." I reject requests to add about 5 applications per day, as I hate them, and prefer the simple facebook layout. Less is more.
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Postby GamePlayer » Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:00 pm

Oh, I see. Well, that sounds ideal! I'll have to give it a try. Thanks Phaedrus
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Postby GamePlayer » Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:33 pm

Interesting:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/20 ... 4/facebook

It's a somewhat too alarmist article for my tastes and more than a bit slanted, but I do appreciate the selling point of the piece, the concept of the human relationship as new advert commodity :shock:
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Postby The Phantom » Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:03 am

I've got Facebook and it is quite useful. it's the best way i've found to organize events efficiently. I'm also part of three Dune groups, one of which is 1700 members large. It's not as active as some other groups I'm in, but there is some decent discussion. There are also some true fanatics, (one guy talks pretty much only in Dune terms)
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Postby Nekhrun » Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:45 am

bryanvdk wrote:There are also some true fanatics, (one guy talks pretty much only in Dune terms)

The Preacher is over there?
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Postby Phaedrus » Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:08 pm

GamePlayer wrote:Interesting:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/20 ... 4/facebook

It's a somewhat too alarmist article for my tastes and more than a bit slanted, but I do appreciate the selling point of the piece, the concept of the human relationship as new advert commodity :shock:


Interesting. I'm reading a book called Four Arguments for the Elimination of Television for my English class this term, and it makes a lot of the same anti-technological propagandist arguments that are put forth in this argument.

Basically, "Oh noes! If we use this technology, we'll be alienated from other human beings, nature, and eventually reality, and then the people controlling the media will be able to tell us what is real and what isn't, and we'll all be mindless drones. DESTROY THE MACHINES!" What a load of shit. You won't be alienated from anything or anyone if you just take the time to understand what you're doing. Turn off the machines and take a walk, or go hang out with friends, and the danger goes away. People can't control you with machines like that unless you allow them to do so.

Although, I think this is an interesting take on the Butlerian Jihad. Facebook and Myspace as the enemy make a lot more sense than those crazy robits that some idiots wrote about.

Heh, someone should bring this up on DN. We've already got some crazy nuts advocating the elimination of machines that some people use to control other people, right here in the present. It's easy to project that to religious fanaticism.

The only question is, was Frank Herbert an optimist, thinking it would take thousands of years for us to get to the point that a few people in power use machines to control everyone else?
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Postby GamePlayer » Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:26 pm

I agree. A lot of these alarmist opinions should come along with a good dose of teaching about responsibilities. Especially responsibilities to yourself. Sure some of these things are bad if abused, but isn't everything? Television, alcohol, fun...all these pursuits are harmful if they take over. Besides, one thing these opinions of doom never seem to take into account is the fickleness of human nature. We simply bore easily and what is all the rage today will simply be supplanted by something else later down the line. That something else might be television, or the internet or whatever comes next. At the very least, we have a choice to participate or not.
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Postby Omphalos » Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:05 pm

Phaedrus wrote:Basically, "Oh noes! If we use this technology, we'll be alienated from other human beings, nature, and eventually reality, and then the people controlling the media will be able to tell us what is real and what isn't, and we'll all be mindless drones. DESTROY THE MACHINES!" What a load of shit. You won't be alienated from anything or anyone if you just take the time to understand what you're doing. Turn off the machines and take a walk, or go hang out with friends, and the danger goes away. People can't control you with machines like that unless you allow them to do so.


Those arguments, IMHO are bunk. People who write that think that we need human communication for some silly metaphysical need to make contact with others. That is a pants-load. The reason we crave human contact, in addition to occasional touchey-feeley, is to observe and learn from their behaviors and the consequences there of, and to trade information that is personally useful to us. How do TV's and computers not satisfy all of those needs?
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Postby Freakzilla » Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:10 pm

I like being dissassociated from other people. They're all nuts.
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Postby Tleilax Master B » Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:22 pm

Freakzilla wrote:I like being dissassociated from other people. They're all nuts.


Hehe, my sentiments exactly. :D
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Postby GamePlayer » Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:35 pm

I enjoy being disassociated from SC. Everyone else I'd be cool with :) :P
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Postby SandChigger » Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:24 pm

GamePlayer wrote:I enjoy being disassociated from SC.

:shock:

:cry: :cry: :cry:
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Postby GamePlayer » Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:42 pm

LOL :) I'm kidding of course. You're like Seinfeld...

"How can anyone not like you?"

Actually, with perhaps the exception of mandy, I think SC's pot smoking critter is probably the most friendly looking out of us all :)
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